10:22 < tedrock> ok [target=mouseover,help] for people that i can help
10:22 < tedrock> what about people i can harm... is it harm?
10:22 < kneeki> use harm?
10:22 < batrick> you should read the 2.0 change thread
10:22 < batrick> :P
10:22 < tedrock> reading
10:22 < tedrock> who has time to read
10:22 < tedrock> im playign wow!
10:22 < batrick> those who care to learn
10:22 < tedrock> i just learned by asking
10:23 < batrick> and if you don't care to learn, then you really don't belong in this channel :P
10:23 < tedrock> what is the url for this thread
10:23 < tedrock> easy now
10:23 < tedrock> i'm in this channel because i do like to learn
10:23 < tedrock> and i ask questions to learn as well
10:23 < batrick> http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=64187212&sid=1
10:23 < tedrock> if i hadn't ahve aske di wouldn't even have know aobut this forum
10:23 < tedrock> thanks
10:24 < batrick> that's fine, but you can answer your own question by reading the thread I directed you to. Instead you were a smart ass :)
10:26 < tedrock> something i don't see on there how do you mix a modifier with the target command
10:26 < tedrock> [modifier:ctrl target=mouseover,help]
10:27 < tedrock> like that
10:27 < tedrock> i used to know but i lost the macro that had it
10:27 < batrick> yes, but put a comma after ctrl
10:27 < tedrock> ok
10:28 < tedrock> ty
10:28 < batrick> np
10:29 < tedrock> so in theory... "/cast [modifier,ctrl target=mouseover,help] Earth Shock(Rank 1); Earth Shock" could cast earth shock on my target or if i moused over someone i could hurt and hit ctrl and the bind it would earth shock who i moused over?
10:30 < batrick> no
10:30 < tedrock> oh
10:30 < Nom-> No, they're conditions
10:30 < tedrock> ?
10:30 < batrick> damn it
10:30 < batrick> sec
10:30 < Nom-> , = AND ; / = OR
10:30 < tedrock> and change help to harm im there
10:30 < batrick>  /cast [modifier:ctrl, target=mouseover,help] Earth Shock(Rank 1)
10:30 < batrick> no semicolon either
10:31 < batrick> err wait
10:31 < batrick> ya the semicolon is correct
10:31 < batrick> if yoiu have Earth Shock after it
10:31 < batrick> like you do
10:31 < tedrock> the semicolon is if the modifier isn't heald down
10:31 < tedrock> it would do highest rank earth shock
10:31 < tedrock> i use "/cast [modifier:ctrl] Earth Shock(Rank 1); Earth Shock" right now
10:31 < batrick> yes but i see a potential problem you might not
10:32 < tedrock> i wanted to make it so i could just mouse over someone to also level 1 shock them to stop a spell cast
10:32 < tedrock> without losing my current target
10:32 < batrick> if you have target=mouseover, then you may have odd things happen if you don't have anyone mouseover'd or if you are mouse'ing over a different enemy and you want to earthsock rank 1 your target
10:32 < Nom-> you'd have to do something like
10:32 < tedrock> i could just edit my healing macro
10:33 < tedrock> /cast [target=mouseover,help] Lesser Healing Wave; [target=target,help] Healing Wave; [target=targettarget,help] Healing Wave; [target=player] Lesser Healing Wave
10:33 < Nom->  /cast [modifer:ctrl,target=mouseover/target,harm] Earth Shock (Rank 1); Earth Shock
10:33 < tedrock> sweet maybe you can help me fix my healing macro. i liek that idea
10:33 < tedrock> of the or
10:34 < Nom-> you can / combine as much as you like in target
10:34 < Nom-> it *should* match whichever one first
10:35 < batrick> your healing macro looks fine... what's wrong with it?
10:36 < Nom-> It's just shortenting it...you should be able to condense that
10:36 < tedrock> that's what i was thinkin
10:36 < tedrock> also i had an option to hold alt and it would just heal me bypassing verything
10:36 < Nom->  /cast [target=mouseover/target/targettarget,help] Healing Wave; Lesser Healing Wave
10:36 < tedrock> but that won't work
10:36 < tedrock> everything
10:37 < Nom-> I *believe* that would work
10:37 < tedrock> mosue over has to be lesser. it's so i cna do quick flash heals
10:37 < tedrock> so it would be a little different
10:37 < batrick> Nom-, that will only work if he has self cast on
10:37 < batrick> but you could just put 
10:37 < batrick>  /cast [target=mouseover/target/targettarget/player,help] Healing Wave;
10:37 < batrick> ?
10:38 < batrick> unless you want the lesser healing wave bit
10:38 < Nom->  /cast [target=mouseover/player,help] Lesser Healing Wave; [target=target/targettarget,help] Healing Wave
10:38 < batrick> then you'll need to put "; [target=player] Lesser Healing Wave
10:38 < batrick> nom
10:38 < batrick> that'll never get to the second part
10:38 < tedrock> what's with the /player,help on the mouse over part?
10:38 < batrick> player will always be castable on
10:39 < tedrock> /cast [target=mouseover,help] Lesser Healing Wave; [target=target,help/targettarget,help,player] Healing Wave;
10:39 < Nom-> bleh true, reverse them
10:39 < tedrock> err
10:39 < tedrock> the laasst , is suppsoed to be a /
10:39 < Nom-> yeah, you'd have to put mouseover as well i suppose
10:39 < Nom-> *shrug*
10:39 < tedrock> /cast [target=mouseover,help] Lesser Healing Wave; [target=target,help/targettarget,help/player] Healing Wave;
10:39 < batrick>  /cast [target=target/targettarget,help] Healing Wave; [target=mouseover/player,help] Lesser Healing Wave
10:40 < batrick> meh
10:40 < batrick> tedrock, when you condense these you lose a lot of freedom
10:40 < batrick> unless you need more space in your macro, i suggest leaving it the way you have it
10:41 < tedrock> well i can leave it the way i had it
10:41 < tedrock> the problem is i added a modifier to do lesser healing on me and it would never work
10:41 < batrick> you'll want to put that first
10:41 < Nom-> You'd have to put it at the start yeah
10:41 < batrick>  /cast [modifier:ctrl, target=player] Lesser Healing Wave; blah blah 
10:42 < tedrock> if i put it at the start it wouldn't break the macro
10:42 < Nom->  /cast [modifer:alt,target=player] Lesser Healingg Wave; ... etc etc etc
10:42 < batrick> lol
10:42 < batrick> do you mean you put it at the start and it broke the macro?
10:42 < Nom-> Except I can't spell modifier or Healing correctly
10:43 < Nom-> Probably means you FUBAR something
10:43 < tedrock> it would
10:43 < tedrock> but i may have massed up something
10:43 < batrick> probably :P
10:43 < tedrock> ouch
10:43 < batrick> link your macro as it "broken"
10:43 < batrick> s/as it/as it is
10:44 < Bleeter> well of course
10:44 < Bleeter> hence he corrected himself stating he can't spell modifier or healing
10:44 < batrick> Bleeter, ?
10:45 < Bleeter> I presume 'link your macro as it is "broken"' means 'hey, nom-, that macro you posted is broken'. if so, then Nom-'s statement 'Except I can't spell modifier or Healing correctly' is appropriate
10:46 < batrick> i was talking to tedrock 
10:46 < tedrock> ?
10:46 < batrick> link your macro as it "broken"
10:46 < batrick> you said it doesn't work when you put the modifier part to heal yourself in
10:46 < batrick> link it
10:46 < batrick> er paste it
10:47 < tedrock> i got rid of the modifier part to fix it
10:47 < tedrock> so it wasn't broken anymore
10:47 < tedrock> and that's what i posted at the start
10:47 < tedrock> /cast [modifier:alt, target=player] Lesser Healing Wave; [target=mouseover,help] Lesser Healing Wave; [target=target,help/targettarget,help/player] Healing Wave
10:47 < tedrock> what am i doing wrong here
10:47 < Bleeter> normally if referring to someone's paste code, lack of an address (in this case 'tedrock: link...') would indicate you're referring to the last person who pasted code to the discussion
10:47 < Bleeter> but nm
10:48 < batrick> Bleeter, Nom-  was trying to help fix the code, him linking his "broken macro" wouldn't make sense
10:48 < tedrock> ok well what i just posted is broken
10:48 < tedrock> why
10:48 < batrick> one second
10:49 < tedrock> th emodifier part works
10:49 < tedrock> mouse over does not
10:50 < tedrock> having no one selected. does nto work. having someone else selecting works, having em selected does not. so i woudl assume the/player part is broken
10:50 < tedrock> does it need /player,help ?
10:50 < batrick> [target=target,help/targettarget,help/player] Healing Wave
10:50 < batrick> is incorrect
10:51 < batrick> you should have: [target=target/targettarget/player,help]
10:52 < tedrock> /cast [modifier:alt, target=player] Lesser Healing Wave; [target=mouseover,help] Lesser Healing Wave; [target=target/targettarget/player,help] Healing Wave
10:52 < batrick> works?
10:52 < tedrock> nope
10:52 < tedrock> same as before
10:52 < batrick> does it work with a modifier?
10:53 < batrick> as in
10:53 < batrick> alt
10:53 < tedrock> modifier works, mousing over a random works, selecting random works. having no one selected or moused does nothing (should heal me) mousing over my toon does nothing (don't know if it would anyway) mousing over my pic at the top works
10:54 < batrick> mousing over your toon wouldn't work
10:54 < tedrock> didn't think it would
10:54 < tedrock> doesnt' need to
10:54 < tedrock> i don't plan on mousing over me
10:54 < batrick> :P
10:55 < tedrock> that's what hte modifier is for
10:56 < batrick> Nom-,  are you sure that [target=target/player,help] is valid?
10:56 < batrick> i've never seen that before
10:57 < tedrock> i could seperate target=player onto its own
10:57 < tedrock> at least im still making targettarget and target smaller
10:58 < tedrock> odd when did he leave
10:58 < tedrock> oh nm. ghost
10:58 < batrick> tedrock, i don't think that works
10:58 < batrick> you'll need to seperate target=unit into it's own part for each unit
10:59 < tedrock> i gues si fi have self cast on i don't even need target player
10:59 < batrick> I don't see any documenation that says it's valid
10:59 < batrick> Nom-,  are you sure that [target=target/player,help] is valid?
10:59 < tedrock> nom are you in ontario? it's storming crazy here
10:59 < batrick> ya :P
10:59 < batrick> tedrock, just seperate them
11:00 < tedrock> Message: ..\FrameXML\ChatFrame.lua line 893:
11:01 < batrick> ya Nom, that doesn't work just fyi
11:05 < tedrock> ty for the help
11:06 < batrick> p
11:06 < batrick> np*
11:07 < tedrock> here's one last good one for ya. it's for a hunter friend
11:08 < tedrock> how would you make a macro feed your pet a certain item in a specified bag slot
11:10 < tedrock> as well could you do it in a cast sequence 
11:11 < tedrock> so like, /castsequence rez pet, feed pet bag2,slot7 or something
11:11 < batrick> you would use: 
11:11 < batrick>  /cast Feed Pet
11:12 < batrick>  /use Dry Pork Ribs
11:12 < batrick> which I got btw from doing searching "feed" in http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=64187212&sid=1
11:12 < batrick> :P
11:12 < tedrock> so i couldn't put that in a cast sequence with a rez pet at the start hten
11:12 < batrick> if you insist on bag and bagslot
11:12 < batrick> you would do: /use <bag> <bagslot>
11:13 < batrick> nope :P
11:13 < tedrock> damn
11:13 < batrick> but
11:13 < tedrock> i gues si could make rez on a modifier in the macro
11:13 < batrick> you could ... 
11:13 < batrick> put /stopmacro [pet] after the castsequence
11:13 < batrick> and it would effectively work
11:14 < tedrock> hrmm?
11:14 < tedrock> explain
11:14 < batrick> use this:
11:14 < batrick>  /cast [nopet] Revive Pet
11:14 < batrick>  /cast [pet] Feed Pet
11:14 < batrick>  /use [pet] <bag> <bagslot>
11:14 < batrick> voila :)
11:14 < tedrock> woah. i didn't know you could use some ifs like that
11:15 < batrick> :P
11:15 < Mr_Rabies2> you don't even need to do /use bag bagslot
11:15 < Mr_Rabies2> you can do like /use Roasted Quail
11:15 < batrick> Mr_Rabies, read his original question
11:15 < batrick> :P
11:16 < Mr_Rabies2> ah okay
11:16 < Mr_Rabies2> for most situations the name's probably a better option
11:16 < batrick> you should condense the cast part into /cast [nopet] Revive Pet; Feed Pet
11:17 < batrick> Mr_Rabies, I agree
11:17 < Fin> can I just say thank you very much for that great overview of macros
11:17 < Fin> I'm saving the conversation
11:17 < Mr_Rabies2> i'm tempted to get some david lynch signature coffee but i'm afraid its laced with hallucinogens or something
11:17 < batrick> lol
11:17 < batrick> Fin, you're welcome
11:17 < Fin> you should write it up into a doc, stick it on the web somewhere
11:18  ! Fin might even do that if that's OK?
11:18 < batrick> it's all over the UI forums lol
11:18 < Fin> I know, but I hate using the official forums
11:19 < Fin> they're slow, the search sucks, a lot of the time they just plain don't work, there's two of them (EU and US) so information is split, they've even managed to make it slow on the client side with shitty js
11:19 < Fin> and posts disappear
11:19 < tedrock> /cast [modifer:ctrl,target=mouseover/target,harm] Earth Shock (Rank 1); Earth Shock
11:19 < tedrock> doesn't work
11:19 < batrick> that's because
11:19 < Fin> also, just generally about forums, reading through 60 page threads is... tedious sometimes :)
11:19 < batrick> as we established earlier
11:20 < batrick> target=unit/unit
11:20 < batrick> doesn't work :P
11:20 < batrick> lol
11:20 < tedrock> oh right
11:20 < tedrock> damn
11:20 < batrick> Fin, they're in the stickies
11:20 < batrick> lol
11:21 < Fin> batrick: the slow servers which aren't always up and the shitty client side js and the split information is still true
11:22 < batrick> I didn't say it wasn't
11:22 < Fin> it's very poor, there's no excuse - running forums isn't that hard even with the amount of people using them that Blizzard has to deal with
11:22 < Fin> I didn't say you didn't say it wasn't :P
11:22 < tedrock> /cast [modifer:ctrl,target=mouseover] Earth Shock (Rank 1); [modifer:ctrl,target=target,harm] Earth Shock (Rank 1); Earth Shock
11:22 < tedrock> i would have to do that?
11:22 < tedrock> ad a ,harm to the end of mouse over
11:22 < batrick> The web developer is pretty bad, text runs off my browser's window all the time
11:23 < tedrock> /cast [modifer:ctrl,target=mouseover,harm] Earth Shock (Rank 1); [modifer:ctrl,target=target,harm] Earth Shock (Rank 1); Earth Shock 
11:23  ! Fin has applied as a web admin at Blizzard, fingers crossed
11:23 < Fin> I'd really like to be in a position where I can help fix some of that stuff!
11:23 < batrick> Looks fine tedrock
11:23 < tedrock> oh i guess the spaces before (rank 1) need to be removed for tha to work